Im going to say GS take it in 6. The only hope the Cavs have is if Kyrie can totally out-play Curry and make him disappear like he did in games 5-7 last year, and LeBron contains Durant (which to be fair he usually does, KD has a very poor record vs him). Both teams have had their share of blowout wins and both teams have eased to the finals never really being challenged on the way, but its hard to look past the sheer volume of talent GS has. It wouldn't surprise me if the series only goes to 5 games but I'm saying 6 because the Cavs have made it look just as easy so far, blowing away every opponent with ease just as GS has.
I'm struggling to truly judge Kyrie in these playoffs. They've blown out so many games and in the main Lebron has been on an unbelievable tear. So maybe he is saving himself for the finals......but Steph is ready. Looking back at last year he clearly was not 100% and he now has the luxury of having Durant to take some defensive attention.
Is kerr coaching or just sort of coaching? They're machine like with how they've coped with his problems over the last two years. But Brown's substitution patterns a bit different and don't appear to be quite as effective
I think if I had to choose just one player to start a team with I'd take Lebron but in the context of the teams involved Durant is so key. Although both KD and Curry like to see a lot of the ball for me crucially they are also highly effective without it. Means they play well off each other and when allowing Iggy, Green or even Livingston initiate the offence.
Lebron and Kyrie really like to create a lot by dominating the ball handling. I also don't think Kyrie is at his best yet. Maybe hasn't needed to be.
Green will be so key. If he can just even impact Lebrons efficiency and influence then it's game over
I think there's also going to be more pressure on GS to deliver, especially after last year. As Stephen A Smith put it, Durant can't go to a team that won 73 games and got to game 7 of the finals and lose - it's not an option. If he's going to sign with a team already that good, he has to win - but that puts pressure on and he isn't exactly adept at dealing with pressure. Be interesting to see how he handles it.
The point is its a dull product right now. This has been the least interesting playoffs I can remember and unless the Cavs can find another gear that isn't going to change. I see Chris Paul might be going to the Spurs - at least that might upgrade them and make them a stronger challenger next year (Leonard not getting taken out by Zaza would also help).
Even though GS are winning, well... it seems like all the time, and easily, I wouldn't call it a dull product. Sure you don't get the tension of a close or even OT game, but for me that's not the point.
The artistry, the joy, the beauty of all aspects of the game - be it defence, passing, or sublime shooting - are what make me watch a truly remarkable group of players in these finals. Some of Irvine's handling last night was out of this world. Similarly Curry skinning LBJ - WTF? LBJ himself making a statement at the start with his determination and aggression to get to the basket - and then the adjustments made to counteract this. It was just glorious.
I don't deny that "will they win or lose?" tension is a part of the experience, especially when heavily invested emotionally in the team (e.g here in the UK with Tigers/Heat/United/Scorchers/whatever the F their name is this year...).
But I can watch for the sake of simple physical magic; for "how the hell did he just do that?"; for seeing a display by the (imho) undisputed world's #1 "team" - and I mean that across all sports. It gives me goosebumps of delight. I'm loving this era of the NBA.
You're a fan of excellence Jim, and that's fine - and I do appreciate some of the skills on display from both teams, but it's very hard not to switch off by early in the 4th quarter in all of these games. There's nothing to say you can't have the best of both worlds like we did last year or in times gone by, which is what I'd prefer.
There's nothing to say you can't have the best of both worlds like we did last year or in times gone by, which is what I'd prefer.
Don't disagree with that at all.
I wonder sometimes though if the reason that GS are able to play with such abandon and freedom and apparent love of the game is because they are so good: 'chicken and egg' if you will. They really do seem to enjoy being together on court.
Of course I do realise that that is only the result of serious hard work, and the "rule of 10,000": I hope the next generation coming up don't think that you just pop in 50% shooting from behind the arc or 97% FT without putting the hours in in the gym.
I don't think anyone has commented on it, but to my untrained eye there does seem to be a deliberate attempt from the Dubs in the first few minutes (of both games 1 and 2) to get Zaza scoring. A number of time it has looked as if they've given up 'open' ( open as anything is against the Cavs D) alternatives to get him the ball inside. wonder if it is a confidence thing?
The thing that bothers me most is that this was the expected outcome from even before training camp began - Warriors/cavs final with Warriors winning easily. I hoped all season long the Spurs could mount a challenge but it wasn't to be - and next season looks like more of the same at the moment with again SA being the only possible challenger if they can sign Chris Paul. Maybe Boston in the East with their top draft pick but the conference finals showed there is still a huge gap between them and the Cavs.
I don't know if anyone else likes darts but I do and it's the same thing there - years of Phil Taylor winning everything with ease and just as he started to decline, now Michael Van Gerwen wins almost every tournament and I just wish there was more variety and a bit more competition at the sharp end. It's just the same with the NBA right now and the buzz is missing for me.
Well the East has been as dull as dishwater for a while. It might not be the same team, it just happens to be the team that Lebron plays for. Warriors aren't even halfway to their record of 21 straight series wins against teams from their own conference.
I'm not sure you'd be quite so bothered if (somehow) KD had put together a Big 3 or 4 at OKC. For all the cupcake jibes at KD, LeBron has never shown any real interest in trying out life in the West. He still hasn't managed those not....5, not 6...championships, either.
Not that this is LeBron's fault. If anyone's seen JR Smith or T Thompson, they should point them in the direction of the game. I like Kyrie, but this isn't an and-one tape, he needs to stop playing one-one-ones and actually play like a point guard. Curry's triple-double has been overshadowed by just how good KD's been but he's wiped the floor with Kyrie. if the first two can reappear and KI can step up (sadly it's too late for them to get a coach) then maybe we'll get a game tonight.
Finally something worth staying up for - what a first quarter that was! It did feel like the refs were helping the cavs a little, but they still had to knock down the shots (and if not for so many missed free throws could have threatened 60 points for one quarter!) We know GS is good at making runs when behind so this could be a good one. Game 3 wasn't bad either, but it never felt like the Cavs were going to win, even though they were ahead in the 4th. This game, they are now in a very strong position to do so but I think GS will close the gap...
2NFR: Hogg could do a lot worse, Sharks on a bit of a roll right now ... could be the top team next season (depends if Attiba stays or not)
May 11, 2016 9:51:25 GMT
brummiedunk: Easy for Raiders: 1) Corletto, Sturt, Dixon, Costelloe (my god, he is a good pg and will be HUGE! I didn't even miss josh 2) Elsewhere? Washington from Riders - class! 3) Who wouldn't? Corletto is a god (You hate us but we don't care!)
May 12, 2016 17:01:03 GMT
dwade91: hi everybody, i'm from italy, where can i find a list of the team of London?
May 20, 2016 20:14:10 GMT
gonk: Do you mean a list of teams in London, or a list of London lions players?
May 20, 2016 21:11:25 GMT
dwade91: A list of teams in london, i am from Italy, i dont know leagues and teams in england, i am interesting in london teams
May 21, 2016 9:42:59 GMT
gonk: I've messaged you.
May 21, 2016 17:31:31 GMT
twalk: reading through this thread, my short time in chester was a breeze compared to what followed... lol... funny to me.. def know about that true inner circle of this club....
Jun 23, 2016 21:04:10 GMT