So Westbrook put in his 5th straight triple double last night, the longest streak since MJ in 1989! What's interesting for me is that with Durant leaving, it takes OKC out of title contention which obviously sucks, but the upside has been seeing the displays put on by Russell, and you have to think there is plenty more of this to come. The question is, if he carries on like this will he be MVP, as the team is likely to finish no better than 4th in the West and more likely 5th or 6th. Normally the MVP goes to a player on one of the top 4 or 5 teams in the league. It might be one of those seasons where the MVP and the 'best' player aren't one and the same.
Of course Westbrook also had 10 turnovers last night and is guilty of taking some ill-advised shots this season, but without his contributions the Thunder would be a pretty crap team I think its fair to say.
The whole thing is a bit nuts. They're so heavily reliant on him. I'd be interested to see the team dynamic without him.
It is quite exciting to see what sort of statlines and performances he'll come up with next. 22 Assts against Phoenix? 12 triple doubles in total?
C - Kosta Koufos CF - Joakim Noah, Dirk Nowitzki F - Derrick Williams, Amir Johnson G - Manu Ginobili, Kyrie Irving, Ish Smith, Dante Exum, Dejounte Murray GF - Danny Green, Jaylen Brown Clydebank Quacks
From what I saw it was because he came 3rd in fan voting that he missed out as that was the tie-breaker. The media and players gave him the nod, which is what matters really. I wouldn't feel snubbed if I was Westbrook - these are the same moronic fans who were voting for Zaza Paculia, and if not for bringing in these new voting measures, he would have been starting! To get the recognition of the other players and coaches (when they vote him to the bench) means more, surely.
Westbrook aside, the starting 5s look pretty decent. Some people think Thomas should have been starting for the East, otherwise it was pretty much good choices.
He's officially tied the record with 41 in a season and has every chance of breaking that record now. And he just needs 16 assists in the last 5 games to average the TD for the season. That is incredible, really. Especially given he has no one to defer to so faces double teams all the time. Also impressive is the speed at which he's getting some of these triple doubles, in under 30 minutes! I think he deserves MVP, regardless of team record.
Really? You still think Harden is more deserving? Wow. Luckily most polls I've seen (both fans and experts) have Russ way out in front now. I think the Denver game sealed it for him. Of course we wont know until late June when it won't really matter anymore - don't like that decision to wait until after the finals to announce all the award winners.
Post by DefyingGravity on Apr 13, 2017 13:45:11 GMT
Rockets have the better record, why should that be a negative thing all of a sudden? I think Harden's %s are higher than Westbrook too. Harden takes less shots than Westbrook. And let's not mention the fact that Westbrook's team leave the rebounds for him to collect....
In all seriousness, if Westbrook wins in it then fine fair play because I'm not going to deny the fact he's had a belter of a season. I just don't think Westbrook is as obvious a choice as some people think.
Yeah, I mean I think the team record should be reflected by giving D'Antoni coach of the year (who'd have predicted THAT back in October!) and also Harden still doesn't do anything on defence apart from flop. The fact OKC finished with what, about 8 wins fewer than last season, despite losing a top 5 player for nothing, has to earn recognition somewhere and I don't think it should be Donovan somehow.
I think the stats are as long as they are broad - Harden has got better %'s and win share, but Westbrook has more points, rebounds and higher PER. Oh, and more triple doubles
Ordinarily I agree the MVP should come from a top team, as it tends to do anyway, but this season Westbrook has done something extraordinary and that needs to be recognised. Houston has a better record but don't look like genuine title contenders anymore than Thunder do, so I just don't think that should be a big factor. Otherwise you'd be looking at Leonard or Curry to get it anyway.
And yes, looking forward to the series - not really expecting a Thunder win but I do think they have a chance, if only a small one. It should be one of the more entertaining series on offer in round 1. I know some fans prefer their team to tank if they're middling and not really a contender, but I'd far sooner see a playoff series and go out in round 1 than not make the playoffs. I remember the bleak Sonic years or 2 years ago when we missed out on the last day of the regular season - its rubbish. Much better to take part even if just in round 1, than not at all.
On reflection the MVP for me should go to either Westbrook or Lebron. Westbrook season has been undeniably rare and he has literally carried a relatively average squad to the playoffs. Lebron is the best player in the league and I suspect he will demonstrate that again in the playoffs.
Curry and Durant are going to continue to steal the limelight from each other. Leonard is one of my favourite players on my favourite team to watch but he's not an MVP.
Harden would never have got in this conversation 10 years ago. Maybe not even 5 years ago. He's great to watch but he's in a unique situation with that offensive set and his defence totally sucks. Westbrook and Curry at least try!
He's come under fire for his poor shooting in the 4th quarter, but I think he can only do so much (and it is a lot already!) the team wouldn't have even been in the game without his earlier efforts. Ultimately, Houston is the better TEAM and if Russ is the best player in the series, they probably have 5 of the next best 6 players (probably chucking Oladipo in the mix somewhere) and they were at home - so what do people expect, really?
There's a lot of rumours circulating that Paul George might be joining OKC this summer, that would be pretty awesome (although he's been throwing team mates under the bus so far in the playoffs which I don't think much of) but if he does come in that should make them much stronger next season.
2NFR: Hogg could do a lot worse, Sharks on a bit of a roll right now ... could be the top team next season (depends if Attiba stays or not)
May 11, 2016 9:51:25 GMT
brummiedunk: Easy for Raiders: 1) Corletto, Sturt, Dixon, Costelloe (my god, he is a good pg and will be HUGE! I didn't even miss josh 2) Elsewhere? Washington from Riders - class! 3) Who wouldn't? Corletto is a god (You hate us but we don't care!)
May 12, 2016 17:01:03 GMT
dwade91: hi everybody, i'm from italy, where can i find a list of the team of London?
May 20, 2016 20:14:10 GMT
gonk: Do you mean a list of teams in London, or a list of London lions players?
May 20, 2016 21:11:25 GMT
dwade91: A list of teams in london, i am from Italy, i dont know leagues and teams in england, i am interesting in london teams
May 21, 2016 9:42:59 GMT
gonk: I've messaged you.
May 21, 2016 17:31:31 GMT
twalk: reading through this thread, my short time in chester was a breeze compared to what followed... lol... funny to me.. def know about that true inner circle of this club....
Jun 23, 2016 21:04:10 GMT